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Hi, I need some help diagnosing my black moor Igor. He is 1 1/2 years old.

Details on his home tank

75g tank with an aquatop cf500 canister filter 

Two Dojo loaches(one adult, one juvenile), two adult dwarf blue gourami, one butterfly telescope goldfish and Igor the black moor stocked 

Tenperature is normally at 75 but it has been chilly outside and in my house lately so a heater was added to keep consistant temps at 78

parameters as of now Oct 29, 2018 on the 75g community tank

PH- 7.5

AMMONIA- 0 PPM

NITRITE- 0 PPM 

NIRATE- 0 PPM tested with freshwater masterkit

Temperature- 78°

30% water change weekly 

I use API Stress Coat and Stress Zyme as well as Leaf Zone as it's a planted tank at every water change 

I feed a variety of frozen bloodworms, freeze dried brine shrimp, new spectrum pellets, Sara o nips, and regular tetra min flakes with an occasional treat of raw shrimp thawed and cucumber 

A little detail on what I have been experiencing with him. On October 12th a hurricane knock our power out for 12 hours. My boyfriend and I were as prepared as we could have been since we have 3 tanks. We had a generator but it died within 4 hours of the power outage and we fought and fought to get it back on but couldnt. We had air stones hooked to it to keep water agitation going for gas exchange but once it died we had to stir the water and use battery operated air pumps to keep water going go prevent oxygen issues. Temperatures remained around 75 at that time. 

It had been about 2 days after we had got power back and enter goldfish issues- I noticed a few fuzzy white marks(two) on Igor and my immediate thought was ich. I set up a hospital tank to isolate him from his tank mates because I have loaches I cant medicate the whole tank or salt it. 

I set up a 30g hospital tank and first treated it with aquarium salt, temperature was 80°. I used the recommended dose on the back of salt container and saw no improvement within a week never saw any new ones pop up or had any change as Ich is supposed to fall off. So I did a 75% water change and began Melafix treatment for 7 days as recommended on back of the bottle. His spots completely disappeared within the 7 days so I moved him back home into the 75g. Yesterday we noticed his side was slightly swollen and almost looked like he had beginning signs of dropsy. I kept a close eye on him and today he developed a small red legion with what looked like white discharge around it and it didnt look like dropsy anymore. I set the hospital tank up again, put double dose of stresscoat and put Melafix in it for now but here I am asking for help on what to treat him with. I dont want to over treat him and not fix the problem and I am so worried about him.

He is having trouble staying up right and swimming and he will lay on his side on the bottom of the hospital tank but he will eat just fine. He never stopped eating as long as we dropped it in close by him for him easily get. 

30g Hospital tank parameters as of Oct 29, 2018 

aqueon quiet flow 20 filter 

PH- 7.2

AMMONIA- 0 PPM

NIRITE- 0 PPM

NITRATE- 0 PPM 

TEMP- 78°

30ml of API Stress Coat 

15ml Melafix 

keep in mind this tank is NOT established but I keep testing everyday he is in it incase of spikes. I have it bare for the most part except one decoration to keep my airstone down into the water. 

I have tried to include the best pictures and small video of him that I can take. Is this a bacterial infection? A parasite? I am so worried about my baby ? 

Oh quick fact I call Igor "him" but I am unsure of gender. I am sorry if I left anything out I tried my best to be thorough with all my information 

 

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Edited by Ally Chauncey
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@Anna

@GingerFish

Just tagging a couple of people that probably have more disease experience than me. I'm not an expert by any means.

He definitely looks swollen, his scales do seem a little raised but I'm not 100% sure it's dropsy. 

I don't remember dropsy including floating issues, so there might be a problem with his swim bladder as well. 

For now, I would recommend an Epsom salt bath. I don't remember the exact measurements so I suggest looking it up. Try also raising the regular temperature of the hospital tank to the low to mid-80s. If you can, feed it live foods or specialized foods for treating dropsy. 
I don't want to recommend a medication you might need, so maybe wait for one of the people I tagged or someone else I'm forgetting to reply as well. If you're really desperate to treat the poor fellow though, you could try Kanaplex (bacterial) or Praziquantel (parasitical).

 

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He is in dropsy. Moderate to severe. Very bloated, huge fluid rings under his eyes, clearly raised scales, and he's mostly on the BOTTOM of the tank. He's beginning the "C" shape as well. In my experience, there is no saving a fish once it gets to this point. I would put him down were he my fish. 

If you insist on trying, may I suggest checking the articles section here and following the metro feeding regimen. 

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